To create a USB stick that is compatible with USB 3.0 using the native boot experience of the Windows 10 Technical Preview media (or Windows 8/Windows 8.1), use DiskPart to format the USB stick and set the partition to active, then copy all of the files from inside the ISO . The iso image (prior to modification) works perfectly, and boots using Ventoy. DSAService.exe (Intel Driver & Support Assistant). Ubuntu has shim which load only Ubuntu, etc. https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.33, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5NFuDCZQ00, http://tinycorelinux.net/13.x/x86_64/release/. evrything works fine with legacy mode. Rik. https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=4997. plzz help. Earlier (2014-2019) official GRUB in Ubuntu and Debian allowed to boot any Linux kernel, even unsigned one, in Secure Boot mode. It's a bug I introduced with Rescuezilla v2.4. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI" The file formats that Ventoy supports include ISO, WIM, IMG, VHD(x), EFI files. If you do not see a massive security problem with that, and especially if you are happy to enrol the current version of Ventoy for Secure Boot, without realizing that it actually defeats the whole point of Secure Boot because it can then be used to bypass Secure Boot altogether, then I will suggest that you spend some time reading into trust chains. Tried the same ISOs in Easy2Boot and they worked for me. BIOS Mode Both Partition Style GPT Disk . I you want to spare yourself some setup headaches, take a USB crafted as a Ventoy or SG2D USB that contains KL ISO files, directly. access with key cards) making sure that your safe does get installed there, so that it should give you an extra chance to detect ill intentioned people trying to access its content. Ventoy supports both BIOS Legacy and UEFI, however, some ISO files do not support UEFI mode. Yep, the Rescuezilla v2.4 thing is not a problem with Ventoy. preloader-for-ventoy-prerelease-1.0.40.zip, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1401532, [issue]: Instead of dm-patch, consider a more secure and upstreamable solution that does not do kernel taint. . ventoy maybe the image does not support x64 uefidibujo del sistema nervioso y sus partes para nios ventoy maybe the image does not support x64 uefi. and reboot.pro.. and to tinybit specially :) see http://tinycorelinux.net/13.x/x86_64/release/ And they can boot well when secure boot is enabled, because they use bootmgr.efi directly from Windows iso. Okay, I installed linux mint 64 bit on this laptop before. For these who select to bypass secure boot. This iso seems to have some problem with UEFI. 2. You can install Ventoy to USB drive, Removable HD, SD Card, SATA HDD, SSD, NVMe . the main point of Secure Boot is to allow TPM to validate the running system before releasing stored keys, isn't it? I made Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk with that exact purpose: to bypass Secure Boot validation policy. This could be due to corrupt files or their PC being unable to support secure boot. Copy the efisys.bin from C: > Windows > Boot > DVD > EFI > en-US to your desktop 3. Hello , Thank you very very much for your testings and reports. I cannot boot into Ventoy with Secure Boot enabled on my machine though, it only boots when I disable Secure Boot in BIOS. Already on GitHub? Many thanks! Option 1: doesn't support secure boot at all @chromer030 hello. I didn't try install using it though. I am not using a grub external menu. The point of this issue is that people are under the impression that because Ventoy supports Secure Boot, they will get the same level of "security" booting Secure Boot compliant media through Ventoy as if they had booted that same media directly, which is indeed a fair expectation to have, since the whole point of boot media creation software is to have the converted media behave as close as possible as the original would. Does the iso boot from a VM as a virtual DVD? 4. 4. ext2fsd ? Posts: 15 Threads: 4 Joined: Apr 2020 Reputation: 0 0 for grub modules, maybe I can pack all the modules into one grub.efi and for other efi files(e.g. Delete or rename the \EFI folder on the VTOYEFI partition 2 of the Ventoy drive. and that is really the culmination of a process that I started almost one year ago. This completely defeats Secure Boot and should not happen, as the only EFI bootloader that should be whitelisted for Secure Boot should be Ventoy itself, and any other EFI bootloader should still be required to pass Secure Boot validation. 1.0.84 MIPS www.ventoy.net ===> - . Maybe I can provide 2 options for the user in the install program or by plugin. You answer my questions and then I will answer yours MEMZ.img was listed with no changes for me. I suspect that, even as we are not there yet, this is something that we're eventually going to see (but most likely as a choice for the user to install the fully secured or partially secured version of the OS), culminating in OSes where every single binary that runs needs to be signed, and for the certificates those binaries are signed with to be in the chain of trust of OS. The fact that it's also able to check if a signed USB installer wasn't tampered with is just a nice bonus. Heck, in the absolute, if you have the means (And please note here that I'm not saying that any regular Joe, who doesn't already have access to the whole gammut of NSA resources, can do it), you can replace the CPU with your own custom FPGA, and it's pretty much game over, as, apart from easy to defeat matters such as serial number check, your TPM will be designed to work with anything that remotely looks like a CPU, and if you communicate with it like a CPU would, it'll happily help you access whatever data you request such as decrypted disk content. 7. Also ZFS is really good. I've already disabled secure boot. EDIT: Many thousands of people use Ventoy, the website has a list of tested ISOs. For me I'm missing Hiren's Boot CD (https://www.hirensbootcd.org/) - it's WindowsPE based and supports UEFI from USB. If that is not the case already, I would also strongly urge everyone to consider the problem not as "People who want Secure Boot should perform extra steps to ensure that only signed executable will boot" but instead as "People who don't care about Secure Boot but have it enabled should either disable Secure Boot or perform extra steps if they want unsigned executables to boot". yes, but i try with rufus, yumi, winsetuptousb, its okay. @pbatard Correct me if I'm wrong, but even with physical access, the main point of Secure Boot is to allow TPM to validate the running system before releasing stored keys, isn't it? However, because no additional validation is performed after that, this leaves system wild open to malicious ISOs. About Fuzzy Screen When Booting Window/WinPE, Ventoy2Disk.exe can't enumerate my USB device. puedes poner cualquier imagen en 32 o 64 bits Users may run into issues with Ventoy not working because of corrupt ISO files, which will create problems when booting an image file. I'll fix it. Hiren does not have this so the tools will not work. All of these security things are there to mitigate risks. XP predated thumbdrives big enough to hold a whole CD image, and indeed widespread use of USB thumb drives in general. Do I still need to display a warning message? These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. To add Ventoy to Easy2Boot v2, download the latest version of Ventoy Windows .ZIP file and drag-and-drop the Ventoy zip file onto the \e2b\Update agFM\Add_Ventoy.cmd file on the 2nd agFM partition. If I wasn't aware that Ventoy uses SUISBD, I would be confused just as you by its Secure Boot "support" and lack of information about its consequences. The easiest thing to do if you don't have a UEFI-bootable Memtest86 ISO is to extract the \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.efi file and just copy that to your Ventoy drive. 6. Intel Sunrise Point-LP, Intel Kaby Lake-R, @chromer030 Your favorite, APorteus was done with legacy & UEFI Yes ! The only way to make Ventoy boot in secure boot is to enroll the key. I'll think about it and try to add it to ventoy. Already on GitHub? 1All the steps bellow only need to be done once for each computer when booting Ventoy at the first time. This option is enabled by default since 1.0.76. They do not provide a legacy boot option if there is a fat partition with an /EFI folder on it. For instance, it could be that only certain models of PC have this problem with certain specific ISOs. Keeping Ventoy and ISO files updated can help avoid any future booting issues with Ventoy. You can reformat it with FAT32/NTFS/UDF/XFS/Ext2/Ext3/Ext4 filesystem, the only request is that Cluster Size must greater than or equal to 2048. lo importante es conocer las diferencias entre uefi y bios y tambien entre gpt y mbr. I can only see the UEFI option in my BIOS, even thought I have CSM (Legacy Compatibility) enabled. Installation & Boot. Mybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! Some known process are as follows: So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy. Google for how to make an iso uefi bootable for more info. Then user will be clearly told that, in this case only distros whose bootloader signed with valid key can be loaded. Also, what GRUB theme are you using? You can't just convert things to an ISO and expect them to be bootable! If your PC is unable to process Ventoy as bootable media, then you may need to disable secure boot. I'll test it on a real hardware a bit later. But that not means they trust all the distros booted by Ventoy. @pbatard Point 4 from Microsoft's official Secure Boot signing requirements states: Code submitted for UEFI signing must not be subject to GPLv3 or any license that purports to give someone the right to demand authorization keys to be able to install modified forms of the code on a device. git clone git clone It implements the following features: This preloader allows to use Ventoy with proper Secure Boot verification. and select the efisys.bin from desktop and save the .iso Now the Minitool.iso should boot into UEFI with Ventoy. So I don't really see how that could be used to solve the specific problem we are being faced with here, because, however you plan to use UEFI:NTFS when Secure Boot is enabled, your target (be it Ventoy or something else) must be Secure Boot signed. The file size will be over 5 GB. Oooh, ok, I read up a bit on how PCR registers work during boot, and now it makes much more sense. It should be the default of Ventoy, which is the point of this issue. UEFi64? Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. Now Rufus has achieved support for secure boot as now NTFS:UEFI Driver is signed for secure boot by Microsoft. So by default, you need to disabled secure boot in BIOS before boot Ventoy in UEFI mode. You need to create a directory with name ventoy and put ventoy.json in this directory(that is \ventoy\ventoy.json). If so, please include aflag to stop this check from happening! I have installed Ventoy on my USB and I have added some ISO's files : Can I reformat the 1st (bigger) partition ? This means current is MIPS64EL UEFI mode. Expect working results in 3 months maximum. Tested on 1.0.77. Extra Ventoy hotkey features: F1 or 1 - load the payoad file into memory first (useful for some small DOS and Linx ISOs). Besides, I'm considering that: You signed in with another tab or window. If you allow someone physical access to your Secure Boot-enabled system, and you have not disabled USB booting in the BIOS (or booting from CD\DVD), then there is no point in implementing a USB-based Secure Boot loader. accomodate this. Again, I think it is very fair to say that, if you use use Ventoy on a Secure Boot enabled system, and you went through Ventoy Secure Boot enrolment, they you expect that ISOs that aren't Secure Boot compliant will be reported, as they would with other means of using them on that system. The virtual machine cannot boot. And we've already been over whether USB should be treated differently than internal SATA or NVMe (which, in your opinion it should, and which in mine, and I will assert the majority of people who enable Secure Boot, it shouldn't). @ventoy, I've tested it only in qemu and it worked fine. By the way, since I do want to bring that message home for people who might be tempted to place a bit too much trust in TPMs, disk encryption and Secure Boot, what the NSA would most likely do, if they wanted to access your encrypted disk data on an x86 PC, is issue a secret executive order to Intel or AMD, to design special version of the CPU they need, where the serial can be altered programmatically (so that they can clone the serial from the original CPU in case the TPM checks it) and that includes additional logic and EPROM to detect and store the critical data (such as disk decryption keys) when accessed. It's the BIOS that decides the boot mode not Ventoy. The MX21_February_x64.iso seems OK in VirtualBox for me. Porteus-CINNAMON-v4.0-x86_64.iso - 321 MB, APorteus-MULTI-v20.03.19-x86_64.iso - 400 MB, Fedora-Security-Live-x86_64-32_Beta-1.2.iso - 1.92 GB, Paragon_Hard_Disk_Manager_15_Premium_10.1.25.1137_WinPE_x64.iso - 514 MB, pureos-9.0-plasma-live_20200328-amd64.hybrid.iso - 1.65 GB, pfSense-CE-2.4.5-RELEASE-amd64.iso - 738 MB, FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20200319-r359106-disc1.iso - 928 MB, wifislax64-1.1-final.iso - 2.18 GB UEFI Secure Boot (SB) is a verification mechanism for ensuring that code launched by a computer's UEFI firmware is trusted. However, per point 12 of the link I posted above, requirements for becoming a SHIM provider are a lot more stringent than for just getting a bootloader signed by Microsoft, though I'm kind of hoping that storing EV credentials on a FIPS 140-2 security key such as a Yubico might be enough to meet them. My guess is it does not. privacy statement. It says that no bootfile found for uefi. Probably you didn't delete the file completely but to the recycle bin. Option 1: Completly by pass the secure boot like the current release. Option 2: Only boot .efi file with valid signature. I will give more clear warning message for unsigned efi file when secure boot is enabled. If you get some error screen instead of the above blue screen (for example, Linpus lite xxxx). There are many other applications that can create bootable disks but Ventoy comes with its sets of features. I don't remember exactly but it said something like it requires to install from an Installation media after the iso booted. Ventoy just create a virtual cdrom device based on the ISO file and chainload to the bootx64.efi/shim.efi inside the ISO file. That's an improvement, I guess? I used Rufus on a new USB with the same iso image, and when I booted to it with UEFI it booted successfully. If Ventoy was intended to be used from an internal hard disk, I would agree with you, but Ventoy is a USB-based multiboot solution and therefore the user must have physical access to the system, so it is the users responsibility to be careful about what he inserts into that USB port. That's theoretically feasible but is clearly banned by the shim/MS. I have some systems which won't offer legacy boot option if UEFI is present at the same time.
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